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Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.24 23:14:00 - [1] Tengu is alot better... Imagine you getting a 50% active tanking bonus above what your NH gets, about 100ish dps more and a massive speed and agility boost ontop of a way smaller sig radius... Thats the Diff If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.25 02:54:00 - [2] Originally by: Kittel Edited by: Kittel on 25/02/2010 01:14:46 HAM on PvE is too much work, HM will be fine and faster, then floating all over trying to close range. 530-600m/s is slow, perspective, MWD, not usable in most missions turns you into a titan (sig rad) and without the AB the tengu is 1/2 the speed tank (though still good, sort of) DPS on NH is higher with HM (with exp vel bonus), don't kid yourselves, HAM higher dps, but not a PvE weapon system, overall. drones on NH also help considerably DPS on NH is higher with HM is not true at all Im sorry but the Expl Vel bonus only is good with smaller ships which the Tengu`s extra 100-150 DPS more than makes up for...Also you have an extra rig slot to make up the diff as well. Tengu is better by far, Tank is way better, speed way better, and You never ever use a MWD in missions esp since the Tengu has a AB bonus and hauls ass with 50% AB bonus You can full aggro any room in a LVl 4 and be absolutely fine...IMO the Tengu`s tank is the Best active in Game. If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.25 04:00:00 - [3] Edited by: Kail Storm on 25/02/2010 04:02:57 All your mods are perfect that I saw except use more racial shield hardeners, here is the best tengu setup I found its 4 lows 6 meds 6 hi`s Once again heres the fit read the subs and buy these [Tengu, Fit your mods in] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Photon Scattering Field II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Vepas' Modified Shield Boost Amplifier Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner [empty med slot] Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Buy these subs and fill in last med to fit, this one has 642 DPS but yours will be 700 Also buy a good faction Afterburner ....AB IS A MUST ON THE TENGU...Its the reason nothin can hit you, that and its sig size. If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.25 05:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Kail Storm on 25/02/2010 05:19:06 Your math is way wrong man...Way wrong Im looking at 600 DPS for your setup...Not anywhere close to 900.... 4 dread BCS`s and 6 launchers with scourge t2 and all leve l5 toon=655 DPS with all level 5 and Hobgob 2`s whcih you prob wont use. And I doubt you have all level 5 skills including Drones. 900 is battleship Dmg...Lol if you could get that out of a NH you would never need BS`s ever again. And a drake being only 20% less DPS would be what 700ish lol. With all your dread BCs`s on tengu you get...715 DPS without IMPS an you will get 50% more tank and 100% more tank including speed and sig size. Your NIGHTHAWK NOW=655 DPS Your Tengu with same mods= 715 And Tengu takes half the training time almost. Considering you need command ships 5 versus subsystem 5 which is 5 days lol. If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.25 07:05:00 - [5] Liangs right per usual but if we count training times...I think tengu is way better bang for your...Well SP If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.25 19:47:00 - [6] Yeah im worried about the OP...I have said 3 times.....LISTEN UP OP......THE TENGU IS THE SAME AS THE NIGHTHAWK JUST STRONGER FASTER AND DOES MORE DMG Go try it out then ask us more questions...Otherwise dont ask questions that have been awnsered alot. Or here eve-search.com If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.27 01:01:00 - [7] Edited by: Kail Storm on 27/02/2010 01:02:03 Either fit it active like most guys do or passive...Dont fit a buffer tank in PVE its a huge waste and not very good in PVE at all. I do all the same DPS and speed and a smaller sig and I tank like 3 times as much. Also why would you use Invulns?....2 Specific 1 invuln at most. If you ever got webbed you would die maybe not right away but you would eventually...Not enough recharge at all to compensate. If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.28 00:50:00 - [8] So lug you think a buffer is ok then??? If you run, You`ll only die tired :)

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